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Lowery, Rhue speak out on Warren debacle; Saddleback homophobe to keynote at King Memorial Service

by: Pam Spaulding

Mon Dec 22, 2008 at 15:00:00 PM EST


(UPDATE: Rick Warren pulled the anti-gay language from his church's web site (see the Google cache for the original language).  The relevant question is whether the church now suddenly welcomes "unrepentant gays," and if this is about Warren being embarrassed or Team Obama putting some heat on him - a good journalist would ask the obvious questions of the megachurch pastor). Perhaps some "unrepentant gays" need to contact Saddleback and see if they can join.

UPDATE 2: Read how Soulforce's Jeff Lutes was given the calculated cold shoulder by Rick Warren after the Saddleback pastor agreed to meet with a group of gay and lesbian couples -- then did everything in his power to back away from the commitment after the get-together was outed in a Newsweek piece.


The news keeps breaking on the Rick Warren situation...

First, Dyana Bagby @ the Southern Voice reports that gay rights ally Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery, who will deliver the benediction at the Obama Inaugural, weighs in on the controversy -- by steering clear.

"I'm not getting into that," Lowery said with a chuckle when asked about the controversy. "I'm the other preacher on the program. I'll leave those who are upset to their calling. "I would hope we would not create a distraction," he added. "The president-elect promised he would reach across the divide and that is what he's doing."

...Lowery, 87, a founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, was the first to mention Coretta Scott King's support for gay civil rights at her funeral in February 2006 at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, reminding the audience that she "frowned on homophobia."

..."By the time Aretha sings, the poem is read, people may have already forgotten what Warren said," Lowery said.

Dr. Sylvia Rhue, director of Religious Affairs at the National Black Justice Coalition, has shared her views on the Warren invitation. (You'll recall that she gave a smashing smackdown to the insane anti-gay rant of "Dr." Firpo W. Carr last week.) The emphasis below is mine.
Rev. Rick Warren at the Inauguration
By Sylvia Rhue, Director of Religious Affairs, National Black Justice Coalition

One of the overriding goals of the Religious Affairs Program of the National Black Justice Coalition is to change the conversation of homosexuality from being a sickness and a sin, to a genuine understanding of sexuality with inclusion replacing exclusion, and fact replacing fears.This is no small task with the kind of opposition we face on a daily basis. I see first hand the damage that spiritual abuse can do to body and soul.

We work with people of faith and people of good will to accomplish this goal.We are interfaith and ecumenical in reaching out to powerful religious forces that are adamently allied against equal rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people. We reached out to Bishop Harry Jackson of the High Impact Leadership Coalition and others who do not agree that LGBT people should sit at the table of full equality.

Dr. Rhue continues below the fold.
Pam Spaulding :: Lowery, Rhue speak out on Warren debacle; Saddleback homophobe to keynote at King Memorial Service
We agree with President-Elect Obama that we should talk to everyone about ideas and beliefs that are different from our own. We believe in dialogue, that is how the conversation about change happens.

But, there is a difference in engaging people in dialogue about poverty and AIDS and elevating Rick Warren, a rigorous opponent of LGBT rights to the position of the nation's pastor in the inaugural prayer. He does not represent change but a status quo of discrimination. He is symbolic of a tone setting circumstance that does not bring us together in spiritual terms.

We are aware that Mr.  Obama is dealing with pressures from all sides and that we are in the honeymoon phase of his impending presidency. But this choice has seriously jarred the wedding night of the honeymoon and has given us a wake-up call of deep and righteous concern. We are concerned that the choice of Rick Warren foretells of a potential continuation of the callous disregard for the lives and aspirations of LGBT people in America.

President-Elect Obama, many of us will be at your inauguration. We will dance and party and drink a toast to your success upon which so many hopes are tethered. But, you have to understand that we are once again coming to Washington DC to cash a check. Yes, like the 1963 March on Washington, organized by a black gay man, Bayard Rustin, we LGBT people have been given the same promissory note that is the heritage and pride of every American. The right to pursue life, liberty and happiness, "the riches of freedom and the security of justice." And this is fierce urgency of now has been tainted by the choice of a man who is so deeply flawed that he equates the lifelong love and commitment of a same gender couple to be equivalent to incest and pedophilia.

Thank God we will be able to see and hear the words of an authentic civil rights warrior.  The Reverend Joseph Lowery will be there to provide the benediction. Rev. Lowery is a stalwart believer in full and equal rights for LGBT people.

We will be praying that the value system that energized the Obama campaign, a notion of inclusion and respect, will continue. Many of us will be praying that the words and actions of Rev. Rick Warren will not continue to harm us.

Speaking of Coretta Scott King, Rick Warren has been invited to be the keynote speaker at Martin Luther King, Jr. Annual Commemorative Service, according to The Atlanta Progressive News. That is sickening. Local gay rights activist Darlene Hudson is appalled and says there will be protests.
"I'm completely baffled by this Rick Warren piece," Hudson said. "Inviting someone of his caliber, of comparing GLBTQ people to bestiality, that's a pretty low blow in our community, and to pedophiles, that's pretty grappling information to try to deal with."

"It's just absurd. It's ridiculous. In my opinion, nobody should be given a platform that's that divisive," Betty Couvertier, WRFG radio host and homosexual activist, told Atlanta Progressive News. "They're promoting discrimination."

"He [Warren]... puts the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community... in this other place that doesn't give us humanity. People talk about civil rights and human rights," Couvertier said.

"I think it's inappropriate for him to be involved in the inauguration. I think it's inappropriate for him to be involved in the King event," State Sen. Vincent Fort, a prominent civil rights leader, told APN. "What he represents in his slander of the gay community-- it is slander--seems to be antithetical to the spirit that Obama was communicating during the campaign as well as the spirit of the King Center--antithetical, at cross purposes," Fort said.

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Warren Warren everywhere, and not a jot to think
Amazing and disgraceful he'll be anywhere where MLK is even mentioned.  It does seem like he is pushing for, or somebody is helping him get, more mainstream media attention than he already had through his hucksterism.  

The LA Times ran a blistering and smart opinion piece about why he is the absolute wrong choice:

http://www.latimes.com/news/pr...

Must read, even if the thought of Warren makes you weary.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


great editorial
she did the whole run-down, not just the lgbt angle.  excellent.

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Exactly!
The media keeps privileging glbt disgust with him over the other groups that find his choice offensive.  Do they think that's a sexier story?

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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Loved it Lev
and I've been beating the same points over people's heads for days now with no response. They focus only on prop 8 and decide that "Obama is reaching out," not Obama is legitimizing a man who supported Akinola's actions in Nigeria and is advocating international crimes in assasinating a leader in violation of Hague IV.

The Europeans are nervous that this is, in the words of an Irish colleague, "just a change from the cowboy politics of Bush to the Blazing Saddmes version."

If Bush put an advocate of assasination and of the damnation of Jews as a doctrine on the podium...well, we'd be screaming. And rightfuly so. But this sends out the same message as if Bush did it, as far as the rest of the world.  

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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Oh, it really brings me down
It's such a huge misstep. Had Obama invited Warren to some White House conference, that would have been very different, but giving him pride of place gives Americans and Europeans pause.  However, I think the German et al. offers to take prisoners from Gitmo is a very good sign and puts European perceptions of the Warren imbroglio in better perspective.  At least I hope so.

And perhaps one good thing to come out of this is the exposure of Warren's nasty viewpoints on a range of issues.
I frankly knew him only as a huckster/preacher author and didn't take him seriously.  Now I do.

Happy holidays!

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


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Quick, Hurry, Hide all the proof He is a Homophobe,
  What is it with these homophobes?  None of them have the actual guts to stand by their convictions.  Kinda funny he says he has gay friends but his friends aren't allowed into his church.  

 Do these phobes not think that there are so many LGBTQ people fighting for our rights, and we know who our opposition is, that we don't check out there forms of communication?  I am not on every mailing list, but I do get quite a few.  

 The Phelps WBC Klan is the only group that stands by their beliefs, the rest are fakes, including Rick Warren.  Unless he has had a total change of heart.

 I am waiting to watch Rachel Maddow tonight, MSNBC has been promoting her show all weekend and the Rick Warren controvercy.  I am sure there will be more news coming as Rick the Homophobe has been placed under the microscope.

 And if Rick Warren has really had a change of heart, it will be interesting to see how long it takes for the rest of the Fundies to unload on him.  

 Butter or salt on your pop-corn anyone?

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


One of Dr.KIng's daughters is a noxious homophobe
and was doubtles instrumental in having Warren at this event.  

Ugh...
Don't remind me. Alveda, as well, who is his niece I think, is insufferable.

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May God/the FSM continue to bless Dr. Rhue...
Seriously. Thank goodness for sane people.

Biden says the pick is all about unity
Unity? Fine then. Looks like Obama has chosen unity with the evangelicals over unity with the LGBT community. He has said loudly and clearly that he feels it far more important to bring the hate mongers to the table than it is to bring us. Perhaps he feels that he can take our support for granted. Effectively, the evangelical base of the Republican Party just got told that Obama is also their president and told the LGBT community that we still don't have a president, a voice or a seat at the table. How does it feel to be thrown over for a bunch of superstitious bigots? From my perspective, pretty shitty.

the price of Californai, Az, Fla and other states
where we lost.

We have no political clout.
The power is in the pulpit.

Welcome to de Valera's Ireland.....

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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This one goes out to Rick W.
On YouTube but has NSFW words so I didn't embed it.  Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

My America includes LGBT families.

Lowrey's words disappoint me
and make me wonder if his benediction will be the band-aid people are expecting.  If I were going to the inaugural and was disappointed by Lowery, I'd be prepared to stand there after his speech and demand "Liberty and justice FOR ALL!" until they made me leave.

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You think THOSE words are disappointing?

In defense of Warren giving the invocation I've heard people repeat over and over again, "But Rev. Lowery who will give the benediction is a longtime ally of the gay community who SUPPORTS GAY MARRIAGE.  I've heard this repeated a thousand times by gay people.

Well here is the ACTUAL and very disappointing fact of the matter in the form of a quote from Rev. Lowery himself:

"I support civil rights for all citizens and this includes gay and lesbians citizens. I support civil unions and full benefits (visitation, insurance, etc) for partners in same sex relationships," he said in a written statement to Southern Voice. "Because of the deep seeded roots concerning marriage - in our hearts and minds - for a man and woman, many people, including me, have concerns about the concept/term 'marriage' and experience a degree of cultural shock when faced with same-sex partners. Nevertheless, I am strongly opposed to propositions or amendments that put into law any discrimination against citizens because of sexual orientation."

Not only does he NOT support gay marriage but he strangely, hurtfully and unnecessarily goes on to say that "...many people, including me...experience A DEGREE OF CULTURAL SHOCK WHEN FACED WITH SAME-SEX PARTNERS."

I certainly give him credit for speaking honestly about his feels but he certainly doesn't seem to warrant all the accolades and he doesn't seem to be quite the solid ally of the gay community that he has been portrayed as being.


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I'm always confused by this position.

You are against allowing gay and lesbian Americans to be included in an EXISTING civil institution that is available to all other Americans but you are against passing laws or Amendments to make it illegal because THAT would be discrimination.

Huh?

How is denying the right not discrimination but making it illegal/unconstitutional is?

Their FOR NOT making it legal so that it is legally denied to us but NOT FOR making it illegal?  So they don't want us to have it but they don't want us to go to jail for trying to have it?  Is that it?

Does this kind of sh*t make ANY gay person feel better about a person's position on the issue?

It sure as heck doesn't make me feel all soft and mushy for them.

I hear this bullsh*t double speak from a lot of people that I admire, political and otherwise, but I honestly don't know how they can make the argument that their position is logical.


[ Parent ]
OT: Atlanta "Progressive"(?) News
If that paper is supposed to be progressive, why do they so liberally use the word "homosexual"?

Three people interviewed in article are referred to as a "homosexual activist", someone is described as "openly homosexual" and there are multiple uses of the term "homosexual rights".

Outside of direct quotes, the writer never uses the word "gay" or an acronym or any other word but "homosexual". Does this guy write for Lifesite as well?


The paper is run by someone who is gay, I believe
So I don't know why he uses that word.

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Talking Points
Here is Reverend Lowry, as quoted in Pam's post:

The president-elect promised he would reach across the divide and that is what he's doing.

Here is Joe Biden on Larry King tonight, per the CNN transcript:

Barack Obama said you've got to reach out. You've got to reach a hand of friendship across the aisle and across philosophies in this country.

We can't continue to be a red and blue country. We can't be divided like we have been. And he's made good on his promise.

I smell talking points.


Hm. I don't think anyone cared why the racist
shopkeepers removed that "no coloreds allowed" signs from their store windows. It was simply remarkable that they had bowed to pressure and done so.

In this instance Warren did so without sit-ins, boycotts, or bloodshed and in a very short time. Imagine what could be accomplished with a bit more work.  


Precisely
Obama won't rescind the invitation and that's not the point.

President Obama will continue to have my full support, and I will likely vote for him again in 2012.

And yet, I was very disheartened by the Warren pick, and it took a couple of days to get over the shock.  But the chinese character for "crisis" is actually two characters pushed together: "danger" and "opportunity."

And Rick Warren is dangerous.  But his presence at the Inauguration gives the LGBT community and its allies the perfect opportunity to highlight what homophobia looks like, how dangerous evangelical Christianity can be, and why the separation of church and state is important.  And every day that passes, Warren looks worse and worse, and his invitation to the inauguration looks more and more like political pandering and less and less like "reaching out."  Keep up the good work, people.

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem


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The move to remove all homphobia from his web-site,
  Is a move I could see him do.  He has been exposed.  Now it will all depend if he keeps his homophobia squashed until Jan 20th or not.  I didn't think he would cave, but than again many homophobes will only express their oppinion in select places.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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