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Steele's olive branch to LGBT, pro-choice voters?

by: Pam Spaulding

Mon Feb 02, 2009 at 16:00:00 PM EST


Or is this a suicide mission? Michael Steele appeared on Faux News Sunday and had an exchange with Chris Wallace that is going to drive the social conservative fringe over the edge.

WALLACE: You are one of the co-founders of something called the Republican Leadership Council which supports candidates who favor abortion and gay rights.

   STEELE: Yes.

   WALLACE: Does the GOP needs to do a better job of reaching out to people who hold those views?

   STEELE: I think -- I think that's an important opportunity for us, absolutely. Within our party we do have those who have that view as well as outside and my partnership with Christy Todd Whitman was an effort to build a bridge between moderates and conservatives.

It will take more than this statement to believe Steele wants to turn the party around and put up an actual Big Tent; the party platform is all about womb control and protecting marriage, so talk at this point is cheap.

However, if he's earnest, the internal holy war in the party is going to result in a lot of casualties; David Duke is already screaming with spittle; I'm waiting to see what Daddy D has to say. I wonder who's going to have Steele's back as he attempts to bring his party from the brink? Otherwise he's doomed right out of the gate.

UPDATE: Despite whatever feeble outreach Steele's statement represents, Republican voters are clearly not ready for the Big Tent. Woohoo!

A new Rasmussen poll further demonstrates that the GOP could be in for a long stretch in the wilderness: A majority of GOP voters now say that the party should be more like Sarah Palin.

The numbers: 55% of Republicans say the party should be like Palin, compared to 24% who say they should be like John McCain.

Rasmussen examines the thoughts of the delusional Base of the GOP:
Only 17% of Republican voters say their party has been too conservative, and 30% say its actions and positions have been about right, with nine percent (9%) not sure.

...Even right before Election Day, Republicans were happier with Palin, their vice presidential candidate, than with their presidential nominee McCain.

Just after losing the election, 69% Republican voters said Palin helped McCain's bid for the presidency, and nearly two-thirds said she should be the party's 2012 presidential nominee. Sixty-five percent (65%) of GOP voters had a Very Favorable view of her at that time.

Fifty-one percent (51%) of conservative voters say the Republican Party has been too moderate over the last eight years, while 56% of moderates say it's been too conservative, a view shared by 75% of liberals. Fifty-five percent (55%) of conservatives like a GOP future with Palin in it, but pluralities of liberals (48%) and moderates (42%) say McCain is the model to follow.

H/t, C&L, and PageOneQ.
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I recall him
explicitly stating that he supports retaining the party's current platform. I'm actually curious as to how he plans to woo us in spite of this.

NOM ~ "Mine is an honorable task and I shall drown out anyone who claims otherwise!"

And as I recall,
several yrs ago when he was AG of Maryland, he was anti marriage equality...correct me if I'm wrong.

[ Parent ]
Nope you're right
His position is just like McCain's, bans in for every state constitution, but nothing on the federal level, unless of course those "activist judges" start "legislating from the bench."

NOM ~ "Mine is an honorable task and I shall drown out anyone who claims otherwise!"

[ Parent ]
"bans in every state constitution"
is what I meant ^_^;  

NOM ~ "Mine is an honorable task and I shall drown out anyone who claims otherwise!"

[ Parent ]
400 tons of pop-corn required,
 With the New Leaders folks of talk radio giving out the marching orders, Steele doesn't have a chance. Social conservatives will eat this guy for breakfast, lunch and dinner.  The base of the republin party are the Bible Spice supporters tried and true.  They will not stand for the thought of LGBT anything.  And besides, who will ever forget, 'I can see Russia from my house.'  And she just wont go away.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

LCr
Must be party time in the LCR party room.


Pam,
This movie has been rated PG-13 for sci-fi violence and destruction


Oh, piffle.
Oh, relax, he doesn't MEAN any of it.  This is just another form of the window dressing they used to do, where they would put all five of their African-American delegates onstage (or constantly on camera) at the Republican convention.

The idea that they're actually going to try to be more pro-gay?  This, after a power struggle in which all the candidates (including Steele) furiously accused each other of being even remotely pro-gay?  Puh-lease.


Republican Big Tent
When gays, pro-choice people, etc. enter the Republican Big Tent, the greeter says, "Welcome to the GOP Big Top. Thank you for coming. Help yourself to some refreshments, then sit down over there and keep your mouth shut. We'll have marching orders for you before you leave."

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. -- John F. Kennedy (inspired by Dante's Inferno)

[ Parent ]
it's about time
I for one am glad to hear they are reaching out and courting the LGBT and minority communities. I expect them to walk the talk now.

Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles, and see that the world is moving."
-Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles, and see that the world is moving."
-Elizabeth Cady Stanton


On the POLLING...
When they say, "Republican voters", do they mean people who identify as Republicans or do they mean people who voted for John McCain?

If they mean McCain 2008 voters, then 17% of the approximately 50% that voted for McCain is 8.5% of the electorate.

If they mean those who identify themselves as Republicans - which is 28% in a poll last week - making that 17% about 5% of the electorate.

Either's not very promising for the Republicans.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. -- John F. Kennedy (inspired by Dante's Inferno)


Idolatry
A new Rasmussen poll further demonstrates that the GOP could be in for a long stretch in the wilderness: A majority of GOP voters now say that the party should be more like Sarah Palin.

When the majority of that party prays daily before little statues of Ronald Reagan, this really doesn't surprise me.  It's going to be awhile before they espouse the views of the moderate nation.


The polling is why I think Obama is making a strategic mistake.
Obama is wildly popular. If he's at 70%, that means he's supported by almost all Democrats and independents and not supported by the hardcore Republicans who are the same people that supported George W. Bush until his last day in office. -- And, who are represented in congress by the remaining Republicans.

With those numbers, and Obama's ability to communicate, instead of pandering to Republicans, what he should be doing is talking to independents and convincing them that the Democratic / progressive / liberal core principles and agenda are what is needed for the country.

Obama should be solidifying independent support so that he can build a 70% working majority for universal health care, renewable energy, infrastructure upgrade, universally excellent public schools, affordable post secondary education, equal rights for all, and fixing the economy by reshaping it for the 21st century based on a Democratic / progressive / liberal agenda -   in other words, he should be solidifying support for what he campaigned on instead of sacrificing our core principles to convince Republicans to join him.

IN FACT, given Obama's communication skills and charisma, it would be much easier to solidify support for the agenda and core principles he campaigned on then to compromise on core principles enough to win over Republicans.

Bush's idea was to govern with 50% + 1 vote. Obama has the opportunity to build a governing coalition of Democrats and independents in the 65% - 70% range. These are people who already support him -- giving him the perfect opportunity to educate them on why our core principles and agenda are the way to go.

He should be doing this now, while he has the popularity and clout to do it.

If 70% of the voters were actually convinced that the Democratic core principles and agenda are correct for the country, there'd be no stopping him and the Republicans would be in the wilderness talking to burning bushes.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. -- John F. Kennedy (inspired by Dante's Inferno)


Ted Haggard Says...
It's the rightwing fundies who are killing evangelical religion.  He ought to know.  The Republicans are just blowing smoke out their ssss.  It would be a nice thing to see what's left of organized republicanism bitch slap the rightwing xtianist folks publicly.

My latest blasphemes:

Winners Smoke Weed:
http://thetimchannel.com/?p=378

The Power and the Fury:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsme...

Enjoy.  

Mom always told me I was special and I believed her.


What does "reaching out" mean?
RainbowPhoenix asks the right question. If this doesn't result in a change in Republican policies, what does it matter? Will this "reaching out" deliver votes on ENDA, on a DOMA repeal, on any state equality measure? If not, then this is just the McCain approach again-- allow a couple LCR representatives to attend the national convention, call yourself "inclusive", and then support the same anti-gay measures that David Vitter does.

The Republicans have talked a lot lately about "reaching out" to all the groups they've wronged, but in every case "reaching out" seems to mean "use some touchy-feely PR that mentions the name of the group". It never seems to mean performing tangible actions in support of that group.


You are exactly correct
To be more explicit (and excuse the repeat):

When gays, pro-choice people, etc. enter the Republican Big Tent, the greeter says, "Welcome to the GOP Big Top. Thank you for coming. Help yourself to some refreshments, then sit down over there and keep your mouth shut. We'll have marching orders for you before you leave."

Here's the Republican apology to "wronged" groups:

"We're sorry you feel that way."

Here's the sad part:

The Republicans are stuck in the early 1950's on gay rights.

Here's a quiz for you:

Do you know who was the first African American to address a national convention of a major U. S. political party and when?

Maud B. Richardson - She seconded the nomination of Dwight Eisenhower at the 1956 Republican National Convention.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. -- John F. Kennedy (inspired by Dante's Inferno)


[ Parent ]
Will Tensions Result in a New Third Party for Fundies?
as well as the racists that are now feeling left out in the GOP "Big Tent?"

They culd call it something traditional, like "The Pharisees--Back and Crufifying!" or perhaps something that recognises their sort of militaristic image of themselves in the "battle of decency" as a sort of phalanx against secularism..like..hmmm...the Falangists? Or given their understanding of human rights and economics, something that encapsulates that as well as their anti-immigration/anti-minority stances...."The Know-Nothing Party; 150 years later and still just stupid bigots!"

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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