Why does God hate Sally Kern?

I live in Oklahoma City too

I'm fine and I imagine Sally is too even though I wish she'd get off of her "gay agenda" hating stance.

I'd like to make another point.  The fundies who poo-poo global warming.  What do you think severe weather in early February is?  It is not just a month early it's =two= months.  Normally this doesn't happen until April.

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by: ms7168 @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:12:05 PM CST

God spoke

to Sally and Chuckee Cheese.  Love the sinner, hate the mozzarella.

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.

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by: CharlesMerrill @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:16:32 PM CST

It's all about the holier than thou

Sally and her buds are tight with the GOD.  Nuff said.

And she is a nascent Bush lover, so if you aren't with her you are agin her...

Oh Sally, you really need to read more of the bible...love your neighbor, love your enemy.  

If marriage is so sacred, have you ever come out against Newt Gingrich and his three marriages, each new relationship which was started while still married (gasp) to his present wife?

Let's hear your point of view on the Newt Sally.

Otherwise shut the F*#K up.

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by: bkmn @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:27:00 PM CST

wow

what irony...she speaks anti gay rhetoric and a tornado comes ... lol.

"It's hard to free fools from the chains they revere." ~ François Marie Arouet.

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by: TSinGarnNC16 @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:28:26 PM CST

Maybe her God

is trying to, oh I dunno- TELL HER SHE'S WRONG???


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by: Louise @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:53:34 PM CST

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Was thinking along the same lines...

Posted something like this earlier today on my own blog... No disrespect to those suffering through the tornadoes. Just more dark humor...

http://www.inlookout.com/2009/...

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by: inlookout @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:35:06 PM CST

Note to Sally

This is what happens when your state goes from red to fire engine red.

Dena

Cisgender. Because "Genetic" (or non) is so 2006.

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by: Denabeth @ Tue Feb 10, 2009 at 19:37:22 PM CST

I'm so glad to find this story here already

The very first thing I thought of when I saw the headline this morning was Pam's House Blend and Sally Kern.  Sorry to the Oklahomans, of course.    

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by: Narra @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 08:10:18 AM CST

Bearing False Witness Punishable by Natural Disasters?

My heart goes out to the victims of this tornado who have lost everything--no natural disaster should be a g--damn joke or opportunistic pedagogy for shaming--even if it is "high irony" to point out that leaders who deign to know God's judgment of sin can have the same judgment cast back at them.  I saw an entire town razed by a tornado last year in AR and it was heartbreaking.

If every sin is punishable by natural disaster or disease, then God hates all of us.  I remember the big media storm around childless women and lesbians having the highest rates of breast cancer--a punishment narrative...to equalize all the punishment meted out to gay men:  AIDS, other STDs like syphilis, and in 2008, MSRA.  The moral majority was so gleeful when it had more scientific evidence that God hates lesbians, too (WHY do they only care about science when it involves their hatreds?)  It doesn't matter that these diseases affect everyone--when athletes get MSRA, it isn't punishment.  It seems, to steal the phrase, that when bad things happen to "good" people, it is an opportunity for them to show strength and courage in adversity.  When bad things happen to "bad" people, it is because of God's judgment, karma (that's right you Hindu Fred Phelps), and poetic justice.  

I don't want to recapitulate the punishment narrative--not even for those who would apply it me.  Growing up in the Bible Belt, I have internalized all this "God is punishing me" crap whenever I face a big problem.  I have to turn it around into strength and courage--when Oscar Wilde was imprisoned  for indecency in Reading Gaol, he wrote this (De Profundis):
"Where there is Sorrow there is holy ground.  When I was brought down from my prison to the Court of Bankruptcy between two policemen, Robbie [Wilde's best friend] waited in the long dreary corridor, and before the whole crowd, whom an action so sweet and so simple hushed into silence, he might gravely raise his hat to me, as handcuffed and with bowed head I passed him by.  Men have gone to heaven for smaller things than that."

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by: blakelight @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 10:07:52 AM CST

I have often belived that god sends signals like these

But Unfortunately We who live in Oklahoma know. It's never just one tornado that hits the state. And we have seen far to many die as the results of such events.

And lil town of Lone Grove lost alot of people yesterday i believe right now the Death total stands at 8. And over 50 injured.

And I realize its dark humor but some how if it's one of my relatives who has died this week. I don't think i would find it humorous that god Rose up and Smite them for Sally Kerns view or those of the John Birch Society. We lost 3 people from my home town last spring when they were up in Pitcher oklahoma last May. They were moving back to my home town. And not a single one of them as far as I know had the views of the Sally Kerns of society..  

Pain is Inevitable .
Suffering is Optional  

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by: Ana @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 11:34:18 AM CST

I'm sorry but

although it is tragic that people died in yet another Oklahoma tornado, this blog is about calling out the hypocrisy of leaders like Sally Kern who pick and choose between natural disasters they believe are sent to teach people a lesson.  

How many GLBT people have either been killed or pressured into repressed, unfulfilled lives because of people like Sally Kern who encourage anyone and everyone they meet to condemn GLBT people and treat them as rejects of society?  I bet a lot more than 8-50.  

So, this blog-entry is not about being glad that innocent people died, it's about calling out leadership like Sally Kern to stop taking tragic situations like these (as long as they are located away from their home state) to interpret God's will.

I can keep my family safe by not living in Oklahoma where tornadoes kill many every year.  It's harder for me to keep my family safe from people like Sally Kern, who do everything they can to deny my personhood.  

Oklahomans should encourage their state leadership to fund raise for and support the cause of building a better tornado warning system than legislation or community attitudes that deny GLBT people their rights.

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by: Narra @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 12:51:54 PM CST

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Well ...

Good post Narra.

I got Pam's "dark humor" and took it for what it was. Unfortunately people died in Lone Grove -- in fact I hadn't even heard that until today and that was on NPR's Morning Edition as I was going to sleep. Tornadoes are a fact of life here, and the majority of residents know when its time to get in the "fraidy hole." Lone Grove is a rural community, one of those rural communities no doubt that could benefit from INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING (hello Mr. President), but the Republicans that rural people are coerced into voting for by the Gaylord Family media monopoly don't want that.

Speaking of Kern, the following appears in this week's Oklahoma Gazette, a response to last week's story in the same publication (that I believe Pam linked on the Blend too):

http://www.okgazette.com/p/127...

(I am unable to copy and paste quotes from it, sorry).

FWIW, fine in Norman too. We just got rain and not nearly enough of it.

Help!

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by: sterrapin @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 13:44:35 PM CST

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First of all

First of all. Oklahoma has the very best available Tornado warning system in the world. The people there in Lone Grove had 15 minutes of warning. (So speak on things you know about) And it still was not enough. I lived threw the May 3rd 1999 tornado in okc. Had we not had the great weather warnings and system we have 1000's would have perished not just the 66 who died that day.

 And my being TS and living in this land of Sally Kerns. I know all to well about violence. A 1 in 12 chance of being murdered like all the other Ts women in the world. Higher odds than those of the GLb Populations.
I know all to well what persecution is for being myself. Fired from my teaching position, and no legal recourse to keep my job, that i spent 4 years in college for. I can be kicked out of my House if they so desired to do so. Fired from any job for being part of the GLBT community. Denied service at store. See the video about the man running for city council in Enid Oklahoma and his discrimination against anyone he perceives as gay in his restaurant bar

But even threw all that I have feelings for even those who hate us and make our lifes intolerable. For there are children and innocents taken by nature. And to make light of it as pay back for Sally Kerns Hate. Is way misplaced and falls right into what they do to us. Blame us for what happens in everything.

I don't know about you, But I feel i am a Bigger person with more compasion and understanding than those who use see this what God does to you IF YOU DONT AGREE with US ...

Besides GLBT live everywere and I am willing to bet even in Lone Grove or near by Ardmore ( Ii know for fact GLBT live there ) So what if some of the dead or injured are of our community ?

Yes Sally Kern is a bigoted ignorant person. Yes she is dangerous to people like me. But to think those of us in Oklahoma are not working our ass's off trying to change the view and attitudes is off base. And when we use Tactics like they try to imply on US. Does nothing but build a wall that will make it harder to get Equality threw the Door.

In 1997 the Tulsa pride parade there were maybe 300 people who were harrassed by picketers. The city would not even grant a permit to allow the parade to use the streets. They had to walk down the side walks.
This year was the first night time parade and it have over 18,000 people.
Tulsa has the second largest GLBT Center in the nation now second only to NYC (so i have been told and not known for a fact)

In my HUmming Bullony Opinion giving any press to people like Sally Kern only develops the divide between the sides. And makes it harder to win over those who are prone to joining sides that are black and white, either or neither nor.

So I will offer my condolences to the people of Lone Grove, and hope for logic and reason to take root in this state that has many many wonderful people.  

Pain is Inevitable .
Suffering is Optional  

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by: Ana @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 13:51:09 PM CST

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Not Funny!

This is not funny, even for so called "dark humor." People died! For those of us who live here this is tragic. To bad this blog and its leader chose to be so tasteless. LBGTs live here too, believe it or not.

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by: Dave @ Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 23:08:52 PM CST