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Religious Right objects to being called the Religious Right

by: Pam Spaulding

Fri Feb 13, 2009 at 09:00:00 AM EST


Sometime the truth hurts. For the fundievangelical/American Taliban/bible-beating movement, being associated with the term "Religious Right" (coined by one of their own, Jerry Falwell) is now problematic since the term has become associated with ignorance and bigotry purportedly justified by scripture. Too bad, so sad. (Christianity Today):Phrase 'Religious Right' Misused, Conservatives Say

...Several politically conservative evangelicals said in interviews that they do not want to be identified with the "Religious Right," "Christian Right," "Moral Majority," or other phrases still thrown around in journalism and academia.

"There is an ongoing battle for the vocabulary of our debate," said Gary Bauer, president of American Values. "It amazes me how often in public discourse really pejorative phrases are used, like the 'American Taliban,' 'fundamentalists,' 'Christian fascists,' and 'extreme Religious Right.' "

Gary Schneeberger, vice president of media and public relations for Focus on the Family, said that when writers include terms like "Religious Right" and "fundamentalist," they can create negative impressions.

"Terms like 'Religious Right' have been traditionally used in a pejorative way to suggest extremism," Schneeberger said. "The phrase 'socially conservative evangelicals' is not very exciting, but that's certainly the way to do it."

..."When the so-called 'Religious Right' agrees with us, we applaud their good taste and good judgment," said Land, who is president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission for the Southern Baptist Convention. Some phrases need to be eliminated from journalists' vocabulary entirely, he said. "Until Tony Perkins or Jim Dobson puts a pistol on the table and threatens to kill someone, they shouldn't be called ayatollah of the Right or the Jihadists of the Right."

They cannot wash their hands of this; people have died because of the bigotry fomented and justified by Perkins, Falwell, Dobson, Sheldon and the rest of the professional "Christian" set. It could be argued that they need to retire the word Christian when referring to themselves because they have destroyed the word's meaning.

Mike Tidmus, who is responsible for the ace "Whoop-Ass" graphic, said:

It amazes me how frequently these Talibanistas, who rail against anti-bullying initiatives like No Name Calling Week, trot out hate-motivated, hack rhetoric they've manufactured to attack GLBT citizens - not to mention the so-called "homosexual agenda," which seems to exist only in their closed little minds.
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Okay
So how about we call them the "Religious Wrong"

If that ain't truth in advertising, I don't know what is!


A Name is a Name
It really doesn't matter what label they attach to themselves. They will quickly render that preferred label a perjoritive by their own actions. The rest of us needn't do a thing - just sit back a wait for them to self-destruct.

[ Parent ]
Versus
they love tossing around "Liberal Left".

I'm reminded strongly of last fall, when my middle school 8th grader and a classmate were both taunted as being "Democrats! Liberals!"

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I am proud to be a Liberal and a Democrat.
  I will proudly wear that label, as I am not ashamed of being a Liberal.  The attacks from the likes of Rush Limbag and Sean Calamity trying to make it sound bad hasn't worked.  Those that wear it proud make them look lke the A$$ Hats they are.

 I am LMAO that the Religious Right now have a problem be called who they are.  But no matter what fancy words they would like to use they will still be the same group of Haters and Bigots, People of Intolerence, Homophobes and Homobigots, Christian Taliban, and IMO Quack Pots.

Signed, Happy Cat the Liberal Left Wing Democrat.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


[ Parent ]
I'm not a Liberal and a Democrat...
But only because I'm a Liberal Democrat.

Sorry, couldn't resist! In fact I vote Lib Dem mainly because the party I'd like to vote for (Greens) don't have a chance in hell of winning in my constituency, and I'd rather slit my wrists than vote for Neo Labour or the Tories.

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[ Parent ]
Very True.
Take FOX news and their shows.  They never mention the extreme right.  It's always about the left or far left.  Hannity has his little liberal definition game going where he stops film clips to define what people say in the liberal slant.  

[ Parent ]
They can't even avoid an oxymoron...
"Liberal left"?  How can something be both tepid and hot at the same time?

[ Parent ]
Fair is fair
We'll stop using those terms they object to when they stop putting quotation marks around the words "gay" and refer to our marriages as "so-called marriages," stop referring to members of the judiciary who make rulings they don't agree with as "activist judges."  

Other terms that could be eliminated:  "avowed homosexual," "homosexual agenda."  Really the list goes on and on.

If they want a neat term that sums up exactly who they are, I have quite a few that might do - Clowns, Oafs (or is it Oaves?), Nuts, Busybodies Who Are Overly Interested In What Goes On In Other People's Bedrooms, and several others which aren't fit to print here.


You forgot one
Can't leave out "pantysniffers."

[ Parent ]
That would also fall
under the catagory: old farts.

I am the lizard queen!

[ Parent ]
fine
How about Bigoted Asshats?  Is that a suitable replacement?

LOL
Ive been wondering for 8 years when liberal became a prjorative, the pledge to the flag uses the words with liberty and justace to all,And I to think it should be the religious wrong lol but then I also dont think conservative is a dirty word. Its all this nonsence of associating religon with a stratagy for governence that has turned these words into slurs. I firmly believe that business has to be incouraged (theres my conservative side) to give us all jobs etc, I also firmly believe government has NO place in my bedroom, for that matter in my bathroom,kitchen,livingroom or out back in the garden LOL. I DO NOT SUPPORT IN ANYWAY HOME SCHOOLING. Its a horendous Idea, especially in socially and mentally backward areas like the south, and places like afganastan. Hmm wonder how the american taliban got its name???LOLOLOL

Perhaps the rest of
us wouldn't call them the American Taliban if Falwell, Robertson, and others had not essentially agreed with Osama bin Laden (and voiced their opinion) that America deserved 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina because of their descent into immorality. Exhibit #1 for their side being, of course, the mere existence of "the homosexual agenda."


Remember this? Maybe they need to read the book.....
This chapter has presented my main research findings on religious fundamentalists. The first thing I want to emphasize, in light of the rest of this book, is that they are highly likely to be authoritarian followers. They are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority, and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide. They are fearful and self-righteous and have a lot of hostility in them that they readily direct toward various out-groups. They are easily incited, easily led, rather un-inclined to think for themselves, largely impervious to facts and reason, and rely instead on social support to maintain their beliefs. They bring strong loyalty to their in-groups, have thick-walled, highly compartmentalized minds, use a lot of double standards in their judgments, are surprisingly unprincipled at times, and are often hypocrites.

,,,,and they are manipulated by:

He then goes on to examine "social dominators" or people who attempt to use whatever methods necessary to achieve their goals, which often involve manipulating the right wing authoritarians (RWA's) to do their bidding.
But beyond the social dominators, there is another smaller group, which he calls the "Double Highs," who are both social dominators and right-wing authoritarians. These people, not surprisingly, rise to the top of the political world. It is not difficult to surmise that people like James Dobson, and Kenneth Zucker fall into this category.He says (p. 178) that:

So who are these Double Highs? Simply put, they are "religious" social dominators. They usually had much more religious upbringings than social dominators typically had, or they may have "got religion" as adults. As a group their fervor does not quite reach the levels found among ordinary right-wing authoritarians. But they go to church much more than most people in my samples do. Ditto for being religious fundamentalists. Ditto for being religiously ethnocentric. They thus respond to the religious content on the RWA scale, which ordinary social dominators do not, and that helps make them Double Highs.

So pick your poison..Y'all brought it on to yourselves...and won't be able to get out from under all your S**** till you retrain the next generation.


It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


A Rose is a Rose is a Rose...
no amount of name changing is going to change what these bigots do.

Only one problem with that particular rose:
no flowers, only thorns.

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[ Parent ]
Truth is a Defense
"Terms like 'Religious Right' have been traditionally used in a pejorative way to suggest extremism,"
I don't use it to suggest extremism.

I use it to point out the fact of extremism.

I remember back in 1988, Crazy Uncle Chuckles tried to play the victim card when he was going for the Repug prez nomination.  He tried to claim that referring to him as a 'television evangelist' was a 'bigoted slur.'

I couldn't stop laughing when the TV critic for one of the Houston papers dug up an interview she had done with him a decade and a half earlier when he had taken the 700 Club national - an interview in which he described himself as...

wait for it...

A 'television evangelist'!!!

Like everything on the fascist side - what they complain loudest about and what they most vociferously accuse others of doing, they themselves do to an infinitely higher degree than those they accuse.

Up against the wall, talibangelists!

>^..^<


Be honest: They are Hate Groups
The so called religious right is basically a bunch of anti-gay hate groups. So if they object to the term religious right, let's just be more honest about what they are.

Christian Reich is my fav, though American Taliban is also catchy


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Why don't we just call them "swine" and "dimwits"
and be done with it?

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


Because
It wouldn't be fair to pigs or the intellectually challenged.

[ Parent ]
I'm a progressive Christian
Every time I hear someone proclaim that they are a "Christian", I cringe.  I know that immediately means a narrow minded, judgmental, irrational biblical literalist who's beliefs and actions have nothing to do with the Jesus's teachings of love.  I want to reclaim the term Christian for those who honestly try to follow his teachings.

I just have to ask
Isn't "progressive Christian" a contradiction in terms?  What is progressive about clinging to a Galilean death cult?  Nothing personal, but religion itself is a retro idea, one that has long outlived its usefulness to the human race (if it ever had any).

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
Q, luv ya man
but I don't see how that is anything BUT personal.

I mean, I wouldn't call myself a Christian but I do admire the teachings of Christ as contained in the 4 anonymous Gospels.  


[ Parent ]
The teachings of Christ are just fine and dandy.
So are the teachings of scores of other thinkers and philosophers.  But the teachings of, say, Bertrand Russell are excellent too, and they are not intertwined with a heap of supernatural claptrap about virgin births, walking on water, rising from the dead and so on.  And those, quite simply, are the essence of Christianity.  Take away everything that is disputed among people who call themselves Christians, like fairness and justice and whatnot, and what you have left is a pack of such fairy tales.  

And by design or not, "moderate" Christians enable the Christian right by promoting the idea that we have to respect everyone's religious beliefs, regardless of their content.  The only reason the bigots get away with defending their bigotry on the basis that "it's my faith" is because people have been trained to think that as soon as someone invokes religion, they are immediately beyond scrutiny or criticism.  

Justice and equality and the rest of those principles should not be rooted in anything like magical thinking.  LGBT people deserve equal treatment under law for the simple, excellent reason that we are human beings and citizens, not because someone's imaginary friend says people should be nice to us.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
OK, but as I stated
Marx and Engles aren't any better. It's been awhile since I read it but I do recall something to the effect that the  homosexuality of the elite classes of Greece and Rome was a threat to the family, which they defined, I believed, as a man and woman. Some of the most repressive anti-gay regimes were (and still are) in the Soviet Union, China, and Cuba.

So "leftists" can and have played this trick as well. Simply approaching a notion of "equality" and fairness from the rational/atheist side is no guarantee of GLBTs being regarded as human beings. It is more likely to, yes, but not necessarily. (e.g. Martin Heidiegger)

I would also disagree with you in the respect that the essence of Christianity is justice, fairness, etc. (and I am talking about what Jesus taught, not Paul) That's what they argue about.


[ Parent ]
Let me add
Aristotle was also used to defend slavery. He could also be used to defend homophobia (in spite of his most famous pupil).

[ Parent ]
Some of the liberation theology concerning Christ might open you to progressive Christianity
Things like how revolutionary Jesus was to heal the Roman guard's "friend", or that Jesus showed himself in resurrection FIRST to a women, which was an insanely radical concept taht a woman was selected for that honor.
Jesus telling Mary to think of John as her son, the disciple Jesus LOVED.
I personally am most comfortable with Higher Power concept from 12 steps, and not to taken with any organized religion. After my lover's death in 1990, I went about three years too f*ckin angry to even attempt spiritual beliefs, I was so angry at my creator, and wasn't sold on the idea of even continuing my life.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I'm well aware of liberation theology, petey.
I follow religious movements the way some other people track bird migrations.  The fact remains that it's all based on acceptance of dubious mythology of nebulous provenance.  It doesn't matter who Jesus appeared to after his resurrection, since his resurrection is a suspicious concept to begin with (to put it mildly).  There are far better reasons to respect women and treat them with equality than the actions of some guy in a fanciful story.  To my mind, that's tantamount to arguing that we should treat bears well because Goldilocks was willing to sleep in their beds. We can do way better than that

To respond to the other part of your posting, you have my sincere sympathy for your lover's death and what you went through in its aftermath.  I lost a boyfriend too, about nine years ago.   (We had been involved for about two years and were just at the point of making a serious commitment.  So he wasn't quite a lover and not quite not one.)  And--you know the story--his family cut me out, quite thoroughly.  I went through a couple years of "survivor guilt," and it was pretty hellish.  

But I got through it without feeling the need to submit myself to preposterous mythology.  I'm no happier about what happened to Brian than you were when your lover died.  And I'm quite open to the idea that your grief was even more horrible than mine, since you were already in a committed relationship, had all those shared experiences, etc.  But I can't see that I had anything to gain by deluding myself.  Myths are myths.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
Sorry for your loss to QScribe
I do treat bears well, and I'd have to check the fairytale, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with Goldilocks....but someones been sleeping in my bed, and he is JUST RIGHT....*grins*

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Well, if you're ever passing through Pittsburgh
and you feel an urge to "treat a bear well," just look me up. ;)

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
Shouldn't we just call them what they are?
I prefer "heretic," "blashphemer" and often "Satan worshipper."

[ Parent ]
The most accurate term would be
Power-hungry Mammon-worshippers. Money and power are, after all, the  only two things they truly care about

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[ Parent ]
Calling bullsh*t on 'Christianity Today'
from their own site, last October (parsed out just where they use the supposedly "offensive" language:


Emerging Theology, Liberal Politics
Does one thing lead to the other?
Collin Hansen | posted 10/06/2008 09:33AM

No observer of the emerging church was surprised to see leading voice Brian McLaren endorse Sen. Barack Obama for President. Liberal politics and emerging theology go hand in hand. But what is the connection? Must one lead to the other?

.........

Of course, much could be written about the connections between theological conservatism with the Religious Right. Some conservatives overestimate their grasp on objective truth and demonize those who disagree. But even though we can see the Left-Left, Right-Right connections, they are not inevitable.



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Thank you Louise
because it's not like a "Christian Left" couldn't go there. And on the far, far, far left, you have Marx and Engles. Neither were fans of capitalism, religion, or homosexuality.

[ Parent ]
Religious right
I've always preferred the term "religious right," but I know a lot of those people object to it because it, y'know, shows them for what they really are. Now that they are officially opposed to the term, I'm going to use it as often as possible. That being said, I always liked "Talibangelicals."

What about??
"dysfundamentalists"

The truth is out there... (maybe)

Preaching their dysfunctional family values.


[ Parent ]
Religious Right
It isn't the terms used by writers that casts a negative light on the religious right -- it's their own ignorant, bigoted behaviors!  I typically go farther and call them the Radical Religious Right.  I am a Christian, and I don't want to be identified with the Radicals -- AT ALL -- nor do I think Jesus would want that.  

Why not just call them...
the "Religious Reich"? I do - I think it sums them up perfectly.

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[ Parent ]
SPECTACULAR GRAPHIC! That a keeper.

Yep, see the post just above about the TN killer who brags he is just 'following orders.'

More to come, you betcha! 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


Cowards
I thought these people were supposed to be "proud" to be anti-gay and all of that stuff?

I'm anti-"christian", and I'm totally fine with being called that.  


They haven't recognized my pejoratives.
1. Evangelitist: a portmaneau of evangelist and elitist.  Similar word: heterelitist.

2. Church nazis: religious groups trying to wipe out those who are not like them.  "Ex-gay" groups are kind of like that.

3. Static heads: those who listen to conservative AM talk radio.

4. Politically ignorant: because politically incorrect sounds like a polite term to describe these scumbags.  We have to tell it like it is.

Let's see how they like it.


If "Religious Right" has become a term of dirision,
who is to blame? I rather suspect that they are - and if they choose another name for themselves it would become a term of derision even more quickly. The term isn't really that relevant - it's the cretins behind it that the derision is aimed at.

If "Religious Right" has become a byword for falsehood, it's because the Religious Reich has for so long consistently relied on massively distorted, misrepresented or outright bogus statistics and highly questionable pseudoscience to back up their claims. Just take a quick glance at "Intelligent Design", or any of Paul Cameron's propaganda.

If "Religious Right" has become a byword for hypocrisy, it's because the Religious Reich so frequently says one thing and does something completely different - look at all the sex scandals involving senior Religious Reich figures, or the Mormon church's reneging on their promise late last year that they wouldn't oppose civil rights other than marriage for LGBTs. There's also their willingness to go running to mummy SCOTUS claiming civil rights abuse when they consistently refuse to recognise even basic civil rights for so many millions of others - despite the fact that hate crime statistics for 2007 indicate that LGBTs are seventy five times more likely to be victims of a violent hate crime than Christians (check the fifth comment).

If "Religious Right" has become a byword for intolerance, it's because the Religious Reich has consistently shown disdain and disregard for all those whose beliefs or opinions differ from their own, from Wahabbi terrorists to Quaker and Wiccan pacifists, from Scientologists to scientists.

If "Religious Right" has become a byword for fanaticism, it's because they have consistently shown themselves willing to sacrifice virtually anything - their own economy, the hundreds of lives lost in illegal wars, the sanity of their own LGBT children - for the sake of imposing their will on the world.

If "Religious Right" has become a byword for civil rights abuse it's because the Religious Reich so often opposes others' constitutional rights to a private life, equal protection before the law, and freedom of speech, assembly and religion.

If "Religious Right" has become a byword for hate, it's because the Religious Reich so often acts in a manner consistent with hatred.

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How easily they forget
that the name "religious right" is one that they chose for themselves.

I am the lizard queen!

Does this mean...

That I can't refer to them as "Christian Mullahs" anymore?

Question:  What does an atheist do when they fall to the floor and start "speaking in tongues"?

Answer: Get a CAT scan.


Cover Your Ears Kids!
I don't think they'd really want to hear the terms everyone usually calls them.  If they did, they'd probably think that Religious Right was pretty mild and complementary!  

Christian Right
In the mid 1970's I was invited by a fellow employee who is Jewish (as was the boss) to his house. I noticed when we pulled in, his wife's car had a bumper sticker which said "The Moral Majority is Neither."

I got a kick out of that. Recently I made a post mentioning this and saying we needed an update, "The Christian Right is Neither." Sure enough, another poster pointed to this:

http://www.avatarproducts.com/...

Be careful what you ask for? LOL


Religious Right
Religious Reich, Talibangelists (that's it!), WHATEVER...

These people are dangerous. They lie. They incite. They are hypocrites. They can live there lives according to whatever code they choose. And they can't even do that.

I don't have to choose to live that way nor should they have any influence over any laws adopted in any civil society. Leave me alone, I will leave you alone. Simple.

F**k with me and my gay brothers and sisters, it's on!


The Only Difference...
The only difference between these so-called Christians and Al Qaeda is method. That is all. Both are about forcing their religious views on others without concern. Al Qaeda does it with bombs and other weapons, the fundies do it with laws and amendments.

Jon aka The Angry Fag
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Oh, given the
chance, the fundies will do it with guns and bombs. remember Bush and his "crusade"?

[ Parent ]
The "Religious Right" is the most neutral short way of describing them
along a spectrum of correlation with secular political opinion. "Religious-political authoritarian conservatives" is another accurate description. The activists are not considered mainstream/ centrist (since the centrists are not initiators of political activity) and are not "left" or "liberal".

"Conservative Religious" or "Religious Conservative" is confusing, because "conservative" could apply to intra-denomination "official" theology or church governance, and the "Religious Conservative" need not have the intention of bringing religious matters into the secular political realm. And how would you classify someone who believes in the Virgin Birth, Jesus' bodily resurrection from the dead, and all the other items listed in the 4th-5th century creeds used by most Christian denominations - and yet considers that Jesus didn't run an exclusive show and that the "seven texts of terror" said to be about gays are misinterpreted, and therefore gayness as such is morally neutral and same-gender marriage should be a religious rite? How would you classify a Prosperity Gospel believer who believes that God can be compelled to the believer's will (ie, magic) to deliver specific goods - and also considers all gay identity or sexual activity to be more of a sin than murder? #1 is Bishop Robinson of the Episcopal Church (and he's even conservative/traditional on church governance), #2 is Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, and many more televangelists/ megachurch pastors (who are most untraditional in church governance, by the way).


S1 got it in the first post.
I long a go decided that "religious right" was totally inacurate. Been using "religious wrong" ever since.

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